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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://curiousprogrammer.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/extending-yaml-configuration-files/#comment-8213</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 21:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Steven,

I agree.  YAML is the nicest looking thing for config files I&#039;ve seen.  In that context, neither XML nor JSON would be acceptable alternatives to me (and no-one has suggested anything else).

I&#039;ll have to take a look at your &lt;a&gt;Config::Tree::YAML*&lt;/a&gt; modules.  Thanks for pointing them out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steven,</p>
<p>I agree.  YAML is the nicest looking thing for config files I&#8217;ve seen.  In that context, neither XML nor JSON would be acceptable alternatives to me (and no-one has suggested anything else).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to take a look at your <a>Config::Tree::YAML*</a> modules.  Thanks for pointing them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Haryanto</title>
		<link>http://curiousprogrammer.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/extending-yaml-configuration-files/#comment-8205</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Haryanto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never mind the detractors. I still use YAML *a lot*. It&#039;s just too nice to type and too pretty to be dumped. JSON is limited and a bit bothersome to type. It simply cannot and will never completely replace YAML.

I don&#039;t put code in YAML, but I encounter this &quot;foo based on bar&quot; problem often. My Config::Tree::YAMLHashDir module is one way I do it, by putting several hashes on a single YAML or separate YAML files, and then merging them together to get the final result.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind the detractors. I still use YAML *a lot*. It&#8217;s just too nice to type and too pretty to be dumped. JSON is limited and a bit bothersome to type. It simply cannot and will never completely replace YAML.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t put code in YAML, but I encounter this &#8220;foo based on bar&#8221; problem often. My Config::Tree::YAMLHashDir module is one way I do it, by putting several hashes on a single YAML or separate YAML files, and then merging them together to get the final result.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://curiousprogrammer.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/extending-yaml-configuration-files/#comment-8186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jared]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ron,

Where did you get the idea that YAML is dead?  Do you have links or other evidence?  I did a google search on YAML is dead.  None of the links on the first page talked about YAML begin dead.

And I think that perhaps you and I have a different definition of code (aside from the fact I&#039;m a sometime Lisper - code *is* data).  Trivial variable interpolation does not, code make.  And what is your alternative?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ron,</p>
<p>Where did you get the idea that YAML is dead?  Do you have links or other evidence?  I did a google search on YAML is dead.  None of the links on the first page talked about YAML begin dead.</p>
<p>And I think that perhaps you and I have a different definition of code (aside from the fact I&#8217;m a sometime Lisper &#8211; code *is* data).  Trivial variable interpolation does not, code make.  And what is your alternative?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Savage</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Savage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 23:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Folks

Whether you like YAML or not, it&#039;s effectively dead and gone. Accept this reality and forget it.

As for the YAML at the start of the article, it&#039;s really looks like the intention is to write code in YAML. Bad idea. See also XSL.

One of the myriad of problems is the other code is required to compensate for all the things YAML can&#039;t do. So why put a little bit of code in YAML in the first place?

And so on...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Folks</p>
<p>Whether you like YAML or not, it&#8217;s effectively dead and gone. Accept this reality and forget it.</p>
<p>As for the YAML at the start of the article, it&#8217;s really looks like the intention is to write code in YAML. Bad idea. See also XSL.</p>
<p>One of the myriad of problems is the other code is required to compensate for all the things YAML can&#8217;t do. So why put a little bit of code in YAML in the first place?</p>
<p>And so on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jared]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 22:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Sue,

Yes, I think it is worth learning YAML, or JSON or some other configuration language.  XML is too painful and evalling perl data structures is a bit suspect :)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Has anybody, anywhere, ever figured out a good place to put database passwords?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes - keep it in your head :)

But more seriously, it would be better to use some kind of authentication mechanism such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://curiousprogrammer.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/authen-sasl-perl-works-on-windows/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SASL&lt;/a&gt; and then grant tickets (like perforce does) or maybe even a full-blooded authenticating / ticketing system such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4120&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kerberos&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sue,</p>
<p>Yes, I think it is worth learning YAML, or JSON or some other configuration language.  XML is too painful and evalling perl data structures is a bit suspect <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>Has anybody, anywhere, ever figured out a good place to put database passwords?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes &#8211; keep it in your head <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But more seriously, it would be better to use some kind of authentication mechanism such as <a href="http://curiousprogrammer.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/authen-sasl-perl-works-on-windows/" rel="nofollow">SASL</a> and then grant tickets (like perforce does) or maybe even a full-blooded authenticating / ticketing system such as <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4120" rel="nofollow">Kerberos</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue D. Nymme</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sue D. Nymme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really should learn YAML.

&quot;Please note I’m not advocating putting plaintext passwords in a config file – that is generally a bad idea.&quot;

Has anybody, anywhere, ever figured out a good place to put database passwords?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really should learn YAML.</p>
<p>&#8220;Please note I’m not advocating putting plaintext passwords in a config file – that is generally a bad idea.&#8221;</p>
<p>Has anybody, anywhere, ever figured out a good place to put database passwords?</p>
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