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		<title>By: David Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://curiousprogrammer.wordpress.com/2007/07/30/simple-html-grid-widget-part-4/#comment-7135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Mitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 05:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for posting this!

I ran into this same issue today, and not being very familiar with Scheme (I&#039;m just trying to expose the library to Arc in a reasonable way), I wasn&#039;t sure how to fix it. Your solution was quite helpful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this!</p>
<p>I ran into this same issue today, and not being very familiar with Scheme (I&#8217;m just trying to expose the library to Arc in a reasonable way), I wasn&#8217;t sure how to fix it. Your solution was quite helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: IanO</title>
		<link>http://curiousprogrammer.wordpress.com/2007/07/30/simple-html-grid-widget-part-4/#comment-2034</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jens, thanks for the update.  That is great news!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jens, thanks for the update.  That is great news!</p>
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		<title>By: Jens Axel Søgaard</title>
		<link>http://curiousprogrammer.wordpress.com/2007/07/30/simple-html-grid-widget-part-4/#comment-2023</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jens Axel Søgaard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Btw - I think (90% sure) that the default changed was changed to ampersands in the SVN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw &#8211; I think (90% sure) that the default changed was changed to ampersands in the SVN.</p>
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		<title>By: IanO</title>
		<link>http://curiousprogrammer.wordpress.com/2007/07/30/simple-html-grid-widget-part-4/#comment-2014</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IanO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The two urls ought to refer to the same ressource. The web-server ought to return the same page for both urls.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I understand how it is supposed to work.  However, in a number of websites (including yahoo and google), it doesn&#039;t work like that which means that string-&gt;url corrupts the url.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The two urls ought to refer to the same ressource. The web-server ought to return the same page for both urls.</p></blockquote>
<p>I understand how it is supposed to work.  However, in a number of websites (including yahoo and google), it doesn&#8217;t work like that which means that string-&gt;url corrupts the url.</p>
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		<title>By: Robby</title>
		<link>http://curiousprogrammer.wordpress.com/2007/07/30/simple-html-grid-widget-part-4/#comment-2013</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And as far as the comment goes &quot;(although the fix presumably breaks URLs with semi-colons in the query string)&quot; -- I dont believe this is the case, but if you&#039;re having problems, please do let us know, either on the plt-scheme mailing list, or via bug report.

Thanks for using PLT Scheme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as far as the comment goes &#8220;(although the fix presumably breaks URLs with semi-colons in the query string)&#8221; &#8212; I dont believe this is the case, but if you&#8217;re having problems, please do let us know, either on the plt-scheme mailing list, or via bug report.</p>
<p>Thanks for using PLT Scheme.</p>
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		<title>By: Jens Axel Søgaard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jens Axel Søgaard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ian,

The two urls ought to refer to the same ressource. The web-server ought to return the same page for both urls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ian,</p>
<p>The two urls ought to refer to the same ressource. The web-server ought to return the same page for both urls.</p>
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		<title>By: IanO</title>
		<link>http://curiousprogrammer.wordpress.com/2007/07/30/simple-html-grid-widget-part-4/#comment-2010</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IanO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jens,

I&#039;ve had a look at the recommendation here:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/appendix/notes.html#h-B.2.2  My understanding is that semi-colons are recommended instead of ampersands but not required.  This being the case, the Yahoo server is behaving reasonably.  Here is a URL from google: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;q=facebook&amp;btnG=Google+Search&amp;meta=  
Replacing ampersands with semi-colons here fails to work too
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en;q=facebook;btnG=Google+Search;meta=
I can&#039;t recall a time I have seen semi-colons rather than ampersands in a query string (admittedly I don&#039;t look at them too closely).

Choosing to mangle valid urls by default violates the principle of least surprise and when the result doesn&#039;t work on some fairly large real-world websites it is simply not the right thing to do.

Ian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jens,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a look at the recommendation here:<br />
<a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/appendix/notes.html#h-B.2.2" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/appendix/notes.html#h-B.2.2</a>  My understanding is that semi-colons are recommended instead of ampersands but not required.  This being the case, the Yahoo server is behaving reasonably.  Here is a URL from google: <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&#038;q=facebook&#038;btnG=Google+Search&#038;meta=" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&#038;q=facebook&#038;btnG=Google+Search&#038;meta=</a><br />
Replacing ampersands with semi-colons here fails to work too<br />
<a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en;q=facebook;btnG=Google+Search;meta=" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en;q=facebook;btnG=Google+Search;meta=</a><br />
I can&#8217;t recall a time I have seen semi-colons rather than ampersands in a query string (admittedly I don&#8217;t look at them too closely).</p>
<p>Choosing to mangle valid urls by default violates the principle of least surprise and when the result doesn&#8217;t work on some fairly large real-world websites it is simply not the right thing to do.</p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Jens Axel Søgaard</title>
		<link>http://curiousprogrammer.wordpress.com/2007/07/30/simple-html-grid-widget-part-4/#comment-2009</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jens Axel Søgaard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ian,

The strange thing is that the standard recommens semi-colons instead of ampersands.
So string-&gt;url doesn&#039;t break the url per se, it is the Yahoo server, that doesn&#039;t follow
the standard. As you found out, you need (current-alist-separator-mode &#039;amp) to force it
to use ampersands.

Strange things usually have an explanation, the PLT mailing list is the place to get it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ian,</p>
<p>The strange thing is that the standard recommens semi-colons instead of ampersands.<br />
So string-&gt;url doesn&#8217;t break the url per se, it is the Yahoo server, that doesn&#8217;t follow<br />
the standard. As you found out, you need (current-alist-separator-mode &#8216;amp) to force it<br />
to use ampersands.</p>
<p>Strange things usually have an explanation, the PLT mailing list is the place to get it.</p>
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